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zambocello wrote:Reading this Huffington Post bit of journalism reminds me of freshman composition class, in which our teacher would constantly hammer away at us about Sweeping Generalizations. This article would have flunked my freshman comp class, but but being an informative, researched, coherent article was never the point. Are there any facts in in this article besides the observation that the Philly Orchestra went through bankruptcy?
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When I read these kinds of things I also remind myself of the odds that today's kids will get into a top law school or medical school. Those odds are scarily similar to the odds of making a top orchestra except that school admissions officers are making the decisions instead of employers. Frankly, I don't know of many people getting good jobs in any field except perhaps nursing or some other medical related field. These kinds of problems impact a lot more of society than just the orchestras. Truthfully, I've noticed that a lot of music students are from foreign countries where the prestige of an American degree holds some weight or they are the daughters or sons of some wealthy people. The fate of many of these well to do and/or foreign music majors is not as bad as the Huffington Post story indicates. For middle class kids, though, everyone knows that music is not a great way to make much money. However, consider this -- the reason for studying music is because you love it and cannot live without it. And there really is a career path for regional players. They get jobs in k-12 (at least in districts that still have music programs) or they build a strong studio through good teaching. Some of these musicians can teach other subjects -- math seems to be something that musicians are good at and I know one woman who is a terrific cellist at night and a math teacher by day. Anyway, they derive much of their income through teaching. The playing, despite what the Huffington guy says, is a joy for most musicians even in the most podunk of towns because Beethoven is Beethoven and Mahler is Mahler no matter where you play them. Regarding quality of playing, I've heard some remarkably professional performances of pieces such as the Bartok Divertimento and Schubert's Ninth Symphony (to mention a couple) by some of these freeway philharmonic type groups.
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While I often think of how nice it would be, what a tremendous relief it would be, to have a regularly weekly paycheck -- I have found that the recession and the cultural decline have perhaps favored those of us who know how to hustle up an income. I often wonder what I would do if someone pulled the rug out from under me, I know it would be a terrible situation. At least as a freelancer, there is somewhat a sense of being captain of one's ship!It just irks me that it seems no one is allowed to say anything unless they have proof that what they are saying is true. But maybe I'm in an especially grouchy mood because I still haven't begun my income taxes and am continuing to procrastinate...
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Mrs. White and Mr. Votepek hit on a topic that isn't often discussed on cello chat. The author of the blog is a former cellist. I googled his credentials and found out some things about him. Anyway, cc spends a lot of time discussing the greatest cellists, the best places to go to school to learn to play, the best teachers, how to audition for the greatest orchestras, and a lot of useful tidbits. But for many professional cellists (I won't quote any figures because I don't have any) work involves regional orchestras, weddings, and teaching (k-12 or at home or both). It is a humble existence at best that involves the livelihoods of some extremely talented people.Like almost everything else, music is a pyramid. At the top are the superstar maestros. These are superstars like Barenboim or Ma or Perlman who command the market and make tons of money. A superstar meastro conductor makes magnitudes more than the players. In the middle are the people who play in the major orchestras. They make good, steady, middle class incomes (but nothing like the superstar maestros.) On the bottom are the freelance regional players. Regional orchestras do not have unions. Many regional players teach, but competition for students is tough. For these people, it isn't like Jensen or Starker or Aaron and other big name teachers who have a lot more students than they can handle. Regional players have to teach anyone who can pay to put food on the table. Think about it -- chances are it is not Starker or Ma who are going to personally spend time teaching an ordinary teenager to love music unless the teen is their blood relative. Instead it is some member of your local orchestra who works with a kid on a one-on-one basis and instills that sense of awe that everyone experiences when they are learning about music.Yet the caliber of many regional players is high -- many of them attended the great conservatories and universities and studied with the top teachers. These people provide an invaluable and typically unappreciated service to their respective communities. Regionals pay by the service and when there are fewer services and concerts and players, the players are thrown out of work. Anyway, I think that the blog and Mrs. White's posts brought the plight of regional players to light, especially during this recession. I'm think it is more desperation than bitterness that people are reading in these posts, but that is just my opinion.'Nuff said, at least by me.
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So music majors are courted and accepted, and it really made me feel guilty when I taught there. What chance, really, did they have?
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PatWhite wrote:My stand partner leaned over to me during a frustrating (as in, why are we playing this drivel) rehearsal recently and he pointed to himself and said, "Eastman." He pointed to me and said, "Juilliard." He pointed to the principal violist and said, "Curtis". He pointed to the next stand and said, "Oberlin."
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